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by: cub06h
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Book conversion and DRM
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Feb 8, 2010 11:48 PM
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Hello,
I've got a question about DRM. When you upload books to Amazon Kindle library you can choose whether to use DRM for particular book or not. I am thinking to start a pilot project for a group of people, who would be provided with 50 Kindles fully equipped with books. These books will be converted to e-books and uploaded by myself. How to protect them to be read only on these 50 Kindles?
Do you have any suggestions? Is there any way to accomplish that?
Thank you
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Re: Book conversion and DRM
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Feb 9, 2010 4:09 AM
in response to: thetmz
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I think what you would have to do is create the book on your desktop, perhaps using Mobipocket Creator, and then email the file to your select group of readers, who would then have to move the file onto their Kindles. I've never done this, so I don't know how well it works, but evidently it's possible. You would have to assume some small measure of computer literacy on the part of your readers.
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Re: Book conversion and DRM
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Feb 9, 2010 5:30 AM
in response to: thetmz
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I think your question is about DRM... whether it affects the copy-protection of your files, aren't you?
I have the same question... wondering whether enabling DRM makes it easier for a pirate to steal the content of the book.
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Re: Book conversion and DRM
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Feb 9, 2010 6:11 AM
in response to: rvingwriter
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Well, theoretically, having DRM enabled will protect your books from unauthorized copying. For a pirate to steal content from a DRM protected book, they would have to jump through several hoops.
Kinda like locking your car so no one steals your christmas presents. Will that car lock provide absolute protection? No. Can a thief break in and steal the goods? Sure, but locking the car at least causes them to put forth some additional effort to do so, and they might decide the presents aren't worth the trouble.
Good luck!
John
http://www.signalmanpublishing.com
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Re: Book conversion and DRM
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Feb 9, 2010 6:11 AM
in response to: cub06h
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The question is not about how to upload the files to their Kindles.
The question is about DRM on these files. I want to give these books for 50 people having 50 Kindles. That's it. Without DRM on these books, they can send those files via email or p2p and it will work on millions of Kindles.
How to accomplish that?
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Re: Book conversion and DRM
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Feb 9, 2010 6:12 AM
in response to: john-and-urmila
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> Well, theoretically, having DRM enabled will protect
> your books from unauthorized copying. For a pirate
> to steal content from a DRM protected book, they
> would have to jump through several hoops.
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> Kinda like locking your car so no one steals your
> christmas presents. Will that car lock provide
> absolute protection? No. Can a thief break in and
> steal the goods? Sure, but locking the car at least
> causes them to put forth some additional effort to do
> so, and they might decide the presents aren't worth
> the trouble.
>
> Good luck!
> John
> http://www.signalmanpublishing.com
Exactly!
So, who knows the answer?
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Re: Book conversion and DRM
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Feb 9, 2010 7:52 AM
in response to: john-and-urmila
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I guess I'm confusing DRM-enabled with text to speech enabled.
Doesn't it make it easier for a pirate to steal if a file is speech-enabled?
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Re: Book conversion and DRM
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Feb 9, 2010 7:57 AM
in response to: thetmz
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I think I see what you are asking. I think the best way to do this, if you have all of these kindles on one account, that should allow you to share the DRM protected books. You would upload your book to the Kindle Store and check the DRM box so that DRM will be added to the file. You would have to set a nominal price (i.e. 99 cents) and then make the purchase on one of the Kindles. If all Kindles are on the same account, you can then share the books. At one point, there was a sharing limit of 6 devices. I'm not sure if that is still the case or if now there is an unlimited amount of sharing available for all Kindle devices on the same account. I guess that is something you would have to test.
There may be other ways to accomplish what you want to accomplish, but this way will at least get your DRM enabled books onto multiple Kindles at a minimal cost.
Good luck with your project and let us know how it turns out!
John
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Re: Book conversion and DRM
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Feb 9, 2010 11:46 AM
in response to: john-and-urmila
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> I think I see what you are asking. I think the best
> way to do this, if you have all of these kindles on
> one account, that should allow you to share the DRM
> protected books. You would upload your book to the
> Kindle Store and check the DRM box so that DRM will
> be added to the file. You would have to set a nominal
> price (i.e. 99 cents) and then make the purchase on
> one of the Kindles. If all Kindles are on the same
> account, you can then share the books. At one point,
> there was a sharing limit of 6 devices. I'm not sure
> if that is still the case or if now there is an
> unlimited amount of sharing available for all Kindle
> devices on the same account. I guess that is
> something you would have to test.
>
> There may be other ways to accomplish what you want
> to accomplish, but this way will at least get your
> DRM enabled books onto multiple Kindles at a minimal
> cost.
>
> Good luck with your project and let us know how it
> turns out!
>
> John
> http://www.signalmanpublishing.com
Dear John,
Thank you. There is one tiny problem. This solution works well when books are in English language. Amazon Kindle library limits the selection of languages (I have successfully uploaded books in English), but about 2K/titles per year I've got in Lithuanian language, which isn't supported yet. I have converted many of them and uploaded to Kindle and it works perfectly.
So I was thinking of finding a way to add DRM to those files and make them readable on these Kindles.
Currently I will read about MOBI (which is Kindle-compatible). Do you have any experience with that?
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Re: Book conversion and DRM
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Feb 9, 2010 12:17 PM
in response to: thetmz
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From Kindle Help:
Downloading to Multiple Devices
Content purchased from the Kindle Store can be downloaded to your Kindle, iPhone, or iPod touch as long as you've registered the device to the Amazon.com account that purchased the Kindle content. There is no limit on the number of times a title can be downloaded to a registered device, but there may be limits on the number of devices (usually 6) that can simultaneously use a single book.
That means you can download and read your books on any Kindle device you own as long you've registered each device to the Amazon.com account where your Kindle library is stored.
You can see the items in your Kindle library under Archived Items on your Kindle and send downloads to your registered Kindles from the "Your Orders" section of the Manage Your Kindle page.
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Re: Book conversion and DRM
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Feb 9, 2010 10:18 PM
in response to: cub06h
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> From Kindle Help:
>
> Downloading to Multiple Devices
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> Content purchased from the Kindle Store can be
> downloaded to your Kindle, iPhone, or iPod touch as
> long as you've registered the device to the
> Amazon.com account that purchased the Kindle content.
> There is no limit on the number of times a title can
> be downloaded to a registered device, but there may
> be limits on the number of devices (usually 6) that
> can simultaneously use a single book.
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> That means you can download and read your books on
> any Kindle device you own as long you've registered
> each device to the Amazon.com account where your
> Kindle library is stored.
>
> You can see the items in your Kindle library under
> Archived Items on your Kindle and send downloads to
> your registered Kindles from the "Your Orders"
> section of the Manage Your Kindle page.
I hope you read what I write, not just pasting from Kindle help?
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Re: Book conversion and DRM
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Feb 10, 2010 5:29 AM
in response to: thetmz
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I have some limited experience with MOBI, but, I'm afraid, not enough to advise you on your situation. If you come up with a solution, please post back here and update us.
Thanks!
John
http://www.signalmanpublishing.com
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Re: Book conversion and DRM
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Feb 10, 2010 5:51 AM
in response to: thetmz
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I hope you read what I write, not just pasting from Kindle help?
There seems to be something wrong with your literacy (or numerancy) skills. Six is fewer than fifty.
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